Monday, January 30, 2006

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye

Say good bye to your wombs, gals, you no longer control them. The Republican party does. No filibuster on Alito and he is expected to be confirmed to the Supreme Court tomorrow.

The court now tilts dramatically to the right, Roe will be overturned, and abortion rights will likely be history in 3-5 years. Then they'll start working on birth control. They're against that too, you know.

23 comments:

Robert Lewis said...

On the contrary, women will still have control of their wombs, they just won't be able to utilize qualified medical professionals. Scared young girls, bankrupt single moms, rape victims, women with high risk pregnancies will still be able to risk their lives in order to make iomportant life decisions; they just won't be able to ask their doctors to provide them with needed medical care.

Anonymous said...

Thats right, they won't be able to use doctors, there will be a lot of back alley abortions again, lots of coat hangers and other such "remedies." Unless they've got some money - then they will be able to fly to Canada or Europe or wherever to get one.

Anonymous said...

Let's not be alarmist here. Even if Roe is overturned (and that's a big if), very few states will actually enact further restrictions on first-trimester abortions--and in those that do, the Republican Party may well pay a heavy price.

And there is virtually no constituency for banning birth control--one recent poll I saw had something like 6% wanting that.

Anonymous said...

Who may i ask are women supposed to go to when in need, if qualified medical professionals are no longer an option? Since it is not feasible for most women to perform the abortion themselves, they must rely on others to care for them. So women are supposed to resort to the barbaric times of crawling through back alleys of shady abortion handlers and instill their trust among those who may not partake in proper sterilization, and in turn may lead to severe infection, no possibility for future pregnancy or possible death? That may i ask, is maintaining control of our bodies? And i understand your 'let's not be alarmists' line - but it clearly shows that you are a. lacking any compassion for the emotional trauma that occurs with an unplanned pregnancy b. are most likely a man. c. clearly not a feminist.
And thats great that as a result of these restrictions, the Republican Party may pay a heavy price, but I fear we'll be paying a heavier one when women are forced to resort to treatment that should not even be allowed on animals.

Anonymous said...

lk - why dont you talk about these women who get pregnant before theyre married. if they didnt do that they wouldnt need an abortion! and yes I am a women but not a feminist.

Anonymous said...

Ok I will. Well you so tactfully express your judgments on 'these women' by describing the act of their pregnancy with the terms, 'if THEY didn't do that.' With that, you seem to be implying having sex/getting pregnant before marriage. Firstly, we are all human right? And as humans, since the beginning of time, we have been enjoying each other's companionship, love, and with that sex. So, if 'these women'- as you so tactfully put them in a box of their own - do get pregnant before marriage, how dare anyone make their choices for them. Humans, as we all know, are not perfect. We apparently start wars, bomb innocent bystanders, are full of greed, corruption, overlook the need to care for our environment, walk past homeless people in the street, and take part in many other acts of destruction, greed, and corruption - to name a few. So, to accidentally get pregnant, it is a possibility. Human beings are NOT a perfect kind, therefore, we deserve a chance to fall back on our mistakes and not risk our lives. You especially are a woman, why stand against your own kind? Nobody is perfect, may I remind you. Why stand there and judge 'those women?' Nobody gave you any right to decide what is right and wrong. Pregnancy, birth, a women's body, they are all part of HER - her personal freedoms. We cannot strip women of that right. Why be partial to women and take control of their bodies/health/future? Are we any less of a gender? People make mistakes. Although shocking, people can be careless at times. Some of our most admired presidents/leaders, have made mistakes that have cost the lives of thousands/millions. Studies out now state possible reasons for the incredible number of natural disasters that have occurred in the past year. A major factor? Our destruction of our planet. A possible explanation for the tsunami? Underground nuclear testing. Yes. And how many died in that? Oh yes, almost impossible to track a solid number. I'd say those people taking part in underground testing might now be saying it was a mistake to test there? Maybe their mistake was a bit bigger than getting pregnant. Maybe. But punish our women because they did 'that' - makes perfect sense. So people can cross their arms, nod and judge all they want at 'these women,' when they should start looking at larger mistakes that affect a lot larger population of people.

J said...

bally - with all due respect, and thank you for your comment and everyone for their commments - but you make it sound as if only unmarried women get abortions. Sorry to burst your bubble, but plenty of married women get an abortion too. Birth control is not infallible, and sometimes accidental pregnancies occur, even with married couples. And not every married couple is ready or able to care for a baby - they may be having financial difficulties, they may be trying to complete an education, they may just have kids already and not want to bring another mouth into the world that they fear they can't take care of. And, yes, if the woman happens to be unmarried, guess what, they really may not be able to care for a baby, especially if the man is not going to be there for her. So she should be punished twice in your view by being forced to go to term for a baby she wasn't planning for or can't care for? I doubt too many women have abortions flippantly. And, there are also laws already in effect that restrict abortion rights to a degree. This canard the anti-choice people use about late-term abortions, especially, is nothing but a wedge issue. They cleverly called it "partial-birth" abortions, and made it seem as if women were getting such abortions on a whim.I seriously doubt too many women carry a fetus for 8 months and then wake up one day and say, ehh, changed my mind, think I'll pop down to the clinic today. Almost without exception, the overwhelming cause for late-term abortions is a serious medical reason, where a doctor advises it. That is the right you want to take away from women. To control their bodies with the advice and care of a physician.

Anonymous said...

You can gang up on me all your want, but abortion is wrong. It always has been and always will be. lk says none gave me the right to say whats right and wrong but there is a higher power that does say that and says abortion is wrong. You can cry about women all you want but if they dont want to get "accidently" pregnant they shouldnt be having sex. Its as simple as that!! And jbk I dont know any married woman who would have an abortion. And lk says before that men shouldnt comment on women and abortion so what gives you the right.

J said...

Nobody's ganging up on you bally, lk doesn't need my help to post an articulate response to you and the previous commentators. I was simply pointing out that it's not just unmarried women who get abortions. If you don't know any married women who would get one, fine, but don't think it doesn't happen. Also, I never saw lk say men shouldn't comment on abortion, she simply pointed out that a previous commmentator was likely a man. And, it's my blog so THAT gives me the right to comment here on anything I choose to.

Not a hipster said...

Bally 107 is only talking about "those women" that "accidentally" get pregnant, and therefore shouldn't even be having sex. I would really like to know where she stands on fathers impregnating their daughters, or uncles impregnating their nieces, or complete strangers impregnating defenseless women in a dark parking lot.

Anonymous said...

not a hipster, thanks, I totally agree with you. The people who go off about the "evil" of abortion for some reason hardly ever seem to ever mention the alternative - and not only about the women raped, but even women who get impregnated by men who would end up abusing their kids or eventually killing them. These antichoice seem to really love the fetuses, but the moment the baby is born they want nothing to do with them. Health care, education, financial support - they dont care, just make sure the woman is doing her "duty" and the hell with them after birth.

Anonymous said...

u r a bunch of twats your country is hideously addicted to oil...... so stupid u all are + pathetic... we r at war for greedy oil devils that run this country.... u all believe lies??? u cant b that stupid..... puuuurlease. peace is the way forwrd..... who really wants wr ??? do u?? do u???

Anonymous said...

I don't know what sam's comments about oil have to do with abortion?

Chicago Mezzo said...

I can't believe u can't spell "you", sam. It's pretty basic. As for our dependency on oil, wanna point out a nation that doesn't have some dependency, if not a hideous amount (hey, Europe, Canada, China--every industrialized country in the world!)

And this has nothing to do with abortion. But I expect you wanted it that way.

Abortion is at its heart a very simple thing. Much like other life choices, including even drug use:

You cannot imprison someone in their own body or head. If they want out badly enough (can't have a baby), they will get out. It's just that now, a lot of them will risk death needlessly to get out. But will we really miss them? Nah. They were all a bunch of harlots; scarlet, unmarried women who had to pay for their indiscretions.

And so we see the real face of the anti-choice movement: they want us to "pay" for having sex. Big surprise, eh?

Anonymous said...

from bally: "abortion is wrong. It always has been and always will be."

You cannot argue with a moral absolutist. Abortion isn't mentioned in the 10 commandments. However, killing is, and many people are perfectly happy to have their military on foreign soil, killing strangers who have never lifted a hand against them.

Also, you say that you don't know any married women who would have an abortion. Based on your positions, maybe they just don't feel comfortable talking to someone who holds such unbending opinions on it?

Dan B from Canada.

Anonymous said...

Thats a stupid argument. Maybe abortion isn't mentioned in the 10 commandments but MURDER is! And abortion is murder. Maybe in Canada thats considered ok, but not here.

Anonymous said...

Dan from Canada, sorry about bally and her insults. Not all Americans down here are like her, and the majority still is pro-choice.

Anonymous said...

I speak for a lot of Americans, a lot more than you do or people like not a hipster does. We are out there, we dont control the media like you do, but one day we will, then I will like to see how you like it.

Anonymous said...

To rinakrisalice - the point is you shouldnt be having sex if you cant pay the consequences which include having a baby. Big surprise huh?

Anonymous said...

i would just love one of you people who are against a womens's right to choose to suddenly be impregnated and have no way to deal with it, have no support - or maybe even have been raped. I think you would be singing a different tune then. Words are cheap.

Not a hipster said...

Bally, I would really love it if you would create a blog. Stand on your own feet, make a page about what you believe in instead of having nothing better to do with your time than cut down JBK for anything he talks about.

Erg.

Anonymous said...

not a hipster I have no interest or intention in starting a blog but I will comment on any blog I want to. This is a free country. I said on another comment when people tried to shout me down, that is so typical of your mindview. If someone doesnt agree with you then they shouldnt be allowed to speak. How typical.

Not a hipster said...

Again, I never asked you to not speak. And if you re-read your last post, I ASKED you to speak by starting a blog. Get it right.

The reason you may feel everyone is against you is because people are so tired of you not really saying anything but insults. Grow a set and say what you believe in instead of just cutting people down.

Do you comment on a lot of blogs? How do you decide which ones to comment on? (I'm seriously asking you this, not trying to be a smart@$$) Do you post on blogs that you agree with, or just ones that you don't?

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